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Jgoodroad's Photo Jgoodroad 23 Oct 2010

So, what do you guys think of the new update?

I wouldn't call it a "major" update myself... but it's progress.

I like the fog they added to citadel, and they did a superb job on the center... but other sections look really bare (I know it's just the first art pass,) and I don't care much for that weird triangle opening in the basement area.

I am annoyed I can't pick up med packs and toss them at my teammates.

I feel they need to add something more "special" to the defense class... or perhaps they could just work out the kinks with the riot shield.

new music is great.

I am a bit upset that they are delaying vital entity work until 1.4.0

(WiIl add more later, I swear I had one really important thought but it seems to have slipped my mind.)

but enough of my ranting, what do you think?
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View PostJgoodroad, on 23 October 2010 - 12:57 AM, said:

So, what do you guys think of the new update?
I wouldn't call it a "major" update myself... but it's progress.
I like the fog they added to citadel, and they did a superb job on the center... but other sections look really bare (I know it's just the first art pass,) and I don't care much for that weird triangle opening in the basement area.
I am annoyed I can't pick up med packs and toss them at my teammates.
I feel they need to add something more "special" to the defense class... or perhaps they could just work out the kinks with the riot shield.
new music is great.
I am a bit upset that they are delaying vital entity work until 1.4.0
(WiIl add more later, I swear I had one really important thought but it seems to have slipped my mind.)
but enough of my ranting, what do you think?
Hey Jgoodroad,

Thanks for the feedback!

I guess it all depends on how you look at it. We may not have been able to release new maps, but Citadel's visuals were completely redone and we have more new features in this release than any of the previous updates (we made over 400 changes overall in less than three weeks). I'm sad that we couldn't release Crossroads and Canals, we've put a lot of work into those levels (and the custom elements we implemented for them), but it'll only be a few weeks before the next update. Time will pass quickly enough!

Citadel definitely needs less rough edges in some areas, and way more props.

As for the music, I'm in love with the new Canals tracks. I can't stop listening to them. Epic music is.. epic.

Finally, the entities we'll be releasing in 1.4.0 shouldn't have any impact on current maps, but for community level designers that only started mapping recently, I'd recommend not implementing any NPC spawns or cap zones just yet. You can if you want to, but you'd save a lot of time and effort if you used the new systems instead. Take the time to work on the layout!


Andy
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Jgoodroad's Photo Jgoodroad 23 Oct 2010

What happened to coast?
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View PostJgoodroad, on 23 October 2010 - 02:11 AM, said:

What happened to coast?
Ah, ask me that on Thursday (or tomorrow during the show).
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warbrand2's Photo warbrand2 23 Oct 2010

Q. Just wondering but would it be a good idea to have a prop modeling competition? winners would get there props in the game. (I can't model but I am learning.)
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View Postwarbrand2, on 23 October 2010 - 09:52 AM, said:

Q. Just wondering but would it be a good idea to have a prop modeling competition? winners would get there props in the game. (I can't model but I am learning.)
Could be. What kind of props are you thinking?
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warbrand2's Photo warbrand2 23 Oct 2010

small to med props that can be used as cover, maybe even some combine props for citadel.
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View Postwarbrand2, on 23 October 2010 - 12:14 PM, said:

small to med props that can be used as cover, maybe even some combine props for citadel.
Well, there are plenty from HL2, we just haven't used them yet.
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warbrand2's Photo warbrand2 23 Oct 2010

ok but some sort of competition might get more people interested in the mod.
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View Postwarbrand2, on 23 October 2010 - 12:18 PM, said:

ok but some sort of competition might get more people interested in the mod.
You mean aside from the 600$+ level design contest being announced on Monday? :p
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warbrand2's Photo warbrand2 23 Oct 2010

I mean something minor that will not affect the game much like maybe melee weapon models. I don't think every rebel in city17 can find a crowbar maybe have some randomized melee weapons that are the same in damage and attack speed but different in looks. (I am getting ahead of my self again.)
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AndY's Photo AndY 23 Oct 2010

View Postwarbrand2, on 23 October 2010 - 12:43 PM, said:

I mean something minor that will not affect the game much like maybe melee weapon models. I don't think every rebel in city17 can find a crowbar maybe have some randomized melee weapons that are the same in damage and attack speed but different in looks. (I am getting ahead of my self again.)
Actually, I like that idea. :p Specially if come up with some wacky melee weapons like a tuna, an umbrella, etc..

You should start a new thread and get some feedback from others.
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warbrand2's Photo warbrand2 23 Oct 2010

OK. I posed a topic in suggestions for the competition.maybe I should have posed the topic in this section oops. Andy can you move it.
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WAXT's Photo WAXT 23 Oct 2010

I like the 1.3.0 update -progress is progress. However i think the kinks really need to be worked out of the new 'Roles' system.

Don't get me wrong, everything works fine and it does encourage teamwork (Medic! Medic! MEDIC!), but i feel that the defender has little purpose (due to the arsenal at his disposal) and playing medic can be difficult (at times).
  • Restricting the weapons available to the rebels (perhaps 3 -primary, secondary and melee), either through a 'Class' system (with default loadouts) or introducing a weapon-slot system, will allow for co-operative gameplay to be used to its maximum potential (thus increasing the defender's importance). At the moment everyone is equipped with the same arsenal which doesn't really promote team-work at all.
  • Warbrand2's idea regarding the green triangles (corresponding to the amount of player health) would certainly solve the issues involving the medic.
All in all, excellent job dev team. It is good to see Overwatch is still going strong and living up to its promises. Looking forward to 1.4.0 :thumbsup:
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